Dr. Jill Lepore on why AI backlash is vital for the future

The Verge
By Nilay PatelJul 20, 2026, 11:00 am139 pts
Today, I’m talking with Harvard professor and New Yorker staff writer Dr. Jill Lepore about her new book, The Rise and Fall of the Artificial State, which comes out on August 25. Jill is one of the best writers there is at identifying institutional patterns in history, and Decoder is a show about systems, so…

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